If you've ever been in a doctor's appointment and a medical student was assigned to your doctor, that's about how cadets in CTLT and SMP function. Officers, commissioned warrant officers, midshipmen, cadets, candidates are all affordedofficer status. So our government invested thousands on a lying, dishonest, ill-informed, and immature man child to lead others. Required fields are marked *. I have to admit that when he asked what I needed I probably got a little pleasure by responding: a cup of coffee. I was floored. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. (Still, there is no need to salute them. And you'll have to deal with the reality that there are better men out there and you may be in over your head but don't blame others for your shortcomings. 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On Thursday, January 21, it was reported that the US Army launched an investigation after the unmasking of a supposedly semi-anonymous Twitter account the command sergeant major of West Point Military Academy allegedly used to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump. The Cadet wr had wrote all of us NCOs that trained him, some. It would be earned when I became the kind of Officer that he would be honored to serve as right hand to. Most cadets understand and respect the NCOs within their unit. I agree totally with enlisted not saluting a cadet. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCO's authority and influence. You earn everything in the Army. She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. Now by chance he.be in a billet at some hq and psperwork comes in front of him about ration counts for personnel and what the job description calls for for a 3m Senior Cook requisition.. for his order.. what its called these days) hell be sble to understand better what the job description says. I say these factors because while the SNCO is focused on the lugnut and wheel base the Year 3 cadet is looking at the whole of the Humvee and as much of the landscape around it as he can scope out. As that was a long time ago, my memories of the experience were that it was the best and the worst of both worlds. ok Cadet, go right ahead. *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal * U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs Nobody reads your comments past the first four lines. Before joining the band, she served as an adjunct faculty member of the University of Maryland School of Music, where she also earned her Master of Music in trumpet performance. A very interesting thread. No salute. Thought about it and stored it away and drove on. Be safe out there, use the "recon by fire" method if probing a road and drop to the ground when a frag is near you, the explosion goes up and away. I request you review 600-20again. This is more or less the Armys summer intern program, where young future officers get hands-on experience as a kind of third lieutenant, under the tutelage of a commissioned officer for three or four weeks. You'll be hearing from us soon! How dare enlisted swine preside over a command position? Payback is one reason to avoid it. single time. CDT Vincent High marks! I respected his rank and expertise, but I detested him otherwise. They won't forget what you've shown them and they will resent you. I say this as a retired officer. Only through a wriiten agreement from the pms tonthe guard commander are allowed to serve as acting LT's. Shiver me timbers he pooped on the deck. No matter what route an O receives his commission by, he will regard his SNCOs and NCOs who trained him with the utmost honor and respect. Yes I have seen a misguided ROTC cadet DEMAND a salute from an E-9 once. As SNCOs think of this as an opportunity to shape the Os of the future. Maj. Joel Crawford, USAG West Point Command Sergeant Major by West Point Garrison and Community 2012 - 2014: Col. Dane D. Rideout, USAG West Point Commander by West Point Garrison and Community 1 2012 - 2014 . Has the. . Joseph John Quichocho, 1SG E-8 RETIRED US ARMY. Command Sergeant Major Fraser awards and decorations include: Meritorious Service Medal (1 SOLC, 1OLC), Army Commendation Medal (2 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (1 SOLC, 4 OLC), Presidential Unit Citation, Joint Meritorious Unit, Army Superior Unit, Army Good Conduct Medal (Numeral 6) Defense Service Medal, Kosovo Campaign Ribbon, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korean Defense Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon (Numeral 5), Armed Forces Service Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbons (Numeral 3), NATO Medal, Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, Drivers Badge, German Schuetzenschnur Marksmanship Award (Silver), a recipient of the Honorable Order of Saint Barbara, the Noble Patron of Honor, the Martyrdom of Saint Maurice, the COL Robert L. Manning Achievement Medal, and the Order of Horatio Gates Bronze Medal. but after I had earned my keep so to speak he spent a lot of time teaching and mentoring this Dot head and when I was commissioned he took time off from his civilian job to come to the commissioning ceremony to congratulate me. The U.S. Army, alerted that the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point reportedly violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) by tweeting criticism of former President Donald Trump and also targeted Republican Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan has commenced an investigation. 133. Sometimes, XO is a way of calling the commander or a head of a department in the organization. You see there is a important reason that the strap be properly secured to the six foot ground rod driven into the ground. However, the announcement will indicate assumption as acting commander unless designated as permanent by the proper authority. indicating superior social status. Get off your high horse. Why hasn't a single one of you been taught that humility, respect and honor flows both ways but in different fashions? He is actually correct, SMP cadets serve in ARNG units in the rank of cadet. Both preflight and flight school were run under the traditional cadet model of upperclass and lowerclass where upperclassmen were responsible for much of the military training and discipline of the lowerclassmen. Staff Sergeant Noah D. Taylor of Columbus, Ohio, joined the West Point Band in May of 2015. of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service He previously served as the NCOIC of supply at the U.S. Army School of Music. Ask any SJA. They assume command until relieved by proper authority except as provided in 2-8c. Staff Sergeant Paul Hadwiger, from Kirksville, Missouri, joined the West Point Band in July of 2018. Death, disability, retirement, reassignment, or absence of the commander. So there I was no shot, at my first unit on JBLM, WA as a 2LT and I thought that based on what I was taught that you salute all superior officers. He recently earned the Professional in Human Resources Certification through the Human Resources Certification Institute. DESCRIPTION Twin sisters Cathy and Charlie Kahl enlisted in the Women's Army Corps together, and managed to be stationed together throughout much of their career until they both retired as Command Sergeants Major. Jesus.. So you are incorrect when you say that Cadets outrank me. The two year enlistment term allowed for cadets who had to temporarily halt training because of illness or injury. Anyway. Corporal: Sergeant: Platoon Sergeant: Color sergeant: left sleeve only: First Sergeant: Regimental and Battalion Sergeant Major: Brigade Command Sergeant Major: Lieutenant: Color Lieutenant: Company Commander: Battalion Adjutant: Battalion . Always seek the minority view of any situation or story! While Deployed with the Corps in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, he also assumed duties as the Combined Joint Task Force (OIR) J-3 Sergeant Major. Scotts writing focuses largely on veterans issues, but he is also a big proponent of Constitutional rights and has a deep interest in politics. Aviation Cadet training was 15 months. Both have an option for Cadets to be apart of a simultaneous membership program. Share on Twitter; Share on Facebook; . Sergeant First Class Anthony has also served as a percussionist with the 9th Army Band in Fairbanks, Alaska, and the U.S. Army Signal Corps Band in Augusta, Georgia. The cadet qualifies here too because s/he is obviously present for duty, as assigned. AR 600-20 lists command structure. GO ARMY! Interestingly, one weekend I had a pass and visited a college friend at a nearby naval base where he was undergoing Navy Aviation Cadet training. I think not. They receive paygrade of ~E-5 however they hold a higher position. Somebody at USMA needs to ensure cadets are informed about their precedence in the order of ranks and teach them that while they are at AOT/CLTC, etc. 319th Civil Engineering Squadron. A little background: I received my commission as a 2LT in May 1987 after spending two years in the SMP where I was enrolled as a senior ROTC Cadet (MSIII and MSIV) while serving simultaneously in a National Guard Unit. First off the reg says regularly assigned personnel, which the Cadets are not. West Point welcomed Command Sargent Major Michael J. Coffey as the 21st U.S. Military Academy senior enlisted leader during an assumption of responsibility ceremony Monday, August 17, 2020. I believe my words only carried weight because I've already been in the Army for 10 years and the Senior cadre knew this (I didn't get in any trouble). Ive been on both sides of the fence. DeCA, West Point Commissary adjust . Warrant Officers are formally addressed as "Mister." Period. Cadets were not entitled to receive salutes from enlisted personnel. Born in Heidelberg, West Germany, of African American and Hispanic parents in a U.S. military family, she graduated from Oxon Hill High School in Maryland, where she ranked among the top-10 students in her class. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has a daughter, Talia. The cadet only holds E-6 equivalency. Per the order, they are not entitled to a salute. USAG Yuma Proving Grounds, n Principal Engineer Colorado He previously served as Music Arranger and NCOIC of Sound, Staging, and Lighting at the 113th Army Band "Dragoons" in Fort Knox, Kentucky. In this case he/she is regularly assigned, potentially in an E3, E4, E5, or what have you spot. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has deployed to Kosovo and Iraq. Too many Cadets are treated like children by unprofessional NCOs who fail to realize that they are only alienating their future rather and or senior rather. Greetings from West Point and welcome to the Commandant's Corner. So I think he had it right. From the senior officer perspective we were largely ignored. Whoever came up with this interpretation needs to review deeper. Unprofessional. CSM Craven has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from Colorado Technical University and a Master of Science in Management from Excelsior College. I would argue that the NCO/CO rivalries have started as a result of more modern times as compared to past wars and generations and honestly it should stop. The cadet would still have to be "Regularly Assigned". It would have sent enough juice thru the not yet graduate nor commissioned idiots heart to stop. We had a young know it all LT around the COMS tent he starts looking around and I see him messing with the ground strap the future leader of our troops disconnected it. Her accolades include a Grammy Award for "Best Engineered Album - Classical," engineering and mastering credits on multiple Grammy-nominated albums, an "Award of Excellence" from the Audio Engineering High Resolution Recording Competition, and a Downbeat Award for "Best Engineering for a Live Recording."